The worst game which has achivements is wow, which made me quit it thankfully such a waste of time, on that game its a killer for new players. Because everything becomes a catch 22, cant get in raid because i dont have achivement, cant get achivement because i cant get a raid, repeat.

On the 360, the score is displayed prominently nearly every time your gamertag is displayed. It’s a quantitative summation of your entire experience on that system, for the entire 360 library, whereas trophies are only available on something like 100-150 games. You have to dig through the profile to find trophies, making it a clear after thought for the whole experience. To me, that right there alone shows that the implementation is different enough. Trophies are a kind of cool thing to get. Achievements are tied to your name/online persona and tell everybody what you’ve done for any game on the 360.

Sure, people can say that’s not much of a difference, but to me it embodies one of the fundamental differences in the design philosophy between XBL and PSN. And that’s an important thing. Yes, they are both providing the same thing: meaningless rewards for things you do in games. But one can be implemented better than the other, and make me enjoy collecting them more.

My point was they are IDENTICAL.

Perception vs reality and perception wins again.

They are both meaningless. If you found one better than the other, good for you, but there is not a real difference other than presentation.

And the “sad” comment was obviously being facetious. Would have thought you would know me enough to know that.

And people can do whatever they want, but if you play a shitty game just to get some stupid points that don’t amount to anything in the end, feel free, but I get to have an opinion about it and that opinion is it’s waste of time. Trophies and achievements both.

It is nothing like getting a high score. Oh, so you have 106 trophies, great, maybe that means you can afford more games or have more time to play them. So they can’t even be used for bragging rights. If it makes you happy, that’s fine, but they are just not for me.

And of course people prefer Achievements, it started the whole stupid thing. But Trophies are identical and when people say they care about one and not the other, it justs shows a lack of attention to reality. That is their preference, but it’s like saying you prefer milk to cow juice. The difference is all in your head.

Again, I’m not trying to insult anyone. If you like trophies and achievements, it makes no difference to me. More power to you. Personally, I just don’t get it.

Yeah, I find it interesting that I love getting achievements but couldn’t give two shits about trophies.

I find that sad.

I honestly don’t care about either b/c they are meaningless. They aren’t indicative of anything. They are not like a high score. People play Barbie Goes to Hollywood just to get more Gamer points. Sad.

I think it might just be that achievements are implemented better than trophies. Most of my friends with 360s love getting achievement points. Honestly, I don’t really care about trophies. And why does it makes you sad that someone else loves doing something in a video game? People can spend their time doing what they want as long as they’re having fun.

But I think mentioning another one of Valve’s games would’ve been a good example of just using one gun to get an achievement; that being TF2. I mean, the class updates to the game, while fun, make people change what class they play instead of what new unlockable gun they use. Anyone remember the Pyro update? Holy hell.